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  Transcription Kienmayer wedding
Posted by: MatthieudeP - 09-23-2026, 01:25 PM - Forum: German manuscripts - Replies (2)

Dear,

Our colleague Adam Mezes found this attached Kienmayer-Ziergibl wedding in Schotten on 30.04.1724
This Johann Michael was Herr zu Breitensee & nobled in 1754, his son Michael became Freiherr in 1775


May I ask our Brauherr's lasereyes to transcript it?

Thanks a lot, 

Matthieu


PS 
It seems this Johann Michael married a second time with Johanna von Eberle, but I couldn't find any other information about it



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  Sumerau
Posted by: MatthieudeP - 09-14-2026, 02:04 PM - Forum: Adelsgenealogie - Replies (4)

Dear all, 

Franz Quartal, in 

Die vier vorderösterreichischen Regierungspräsidenten in der zweiten Hälfte des 18. Jahrhunderts, in Habsburg und der Oberrhein. Waldkircher Verlagsgesellschaft, Waldkirch 2002, ISBN 3-87885-344-0
says the following : 
   

I am trying to find these two Sumeraw (Summeraw, Summerau) brothers parents. 

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Thad...on_Sumerau
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerau_(A...u_Prasberg

Both were born in Lantsch/Lenz, but I couldn't manage to find their parents. It is not findable in any published document, and I didn't manage to find the registers online... Quiet strange for un Uradel family

If you have any idea, don't hesitate !

Thanks a lot !

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  descendants of second Polish king August of Saxony
Posted by: Brauherr - 09-13-2026, 07:56 PM - Forum: Adelsgenealogie - Replies (1)

on the court of August the 2nd we can find 2 or 3 body-cooks or Leibköche, especially Posch and Noeller, their families always lived with the king. And we have some evidence that the father of their children were not the cooks, but the king:

1st - these children were nobled and got some of the highest political ranks in different monarchies

2nd - these children lost their inherit money when the mother died, who got the money from the etat of the king

3rd - it is nearly impossible to find out the origin from the mothers/maitresses

etc.

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